Showing posts with label North Lancing Primary. Show all posts
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Sunday, 31 May 2009

Story 16 from Rose (Marg) Moloney


Rose (Marg) Moloney

This lovely recollection has just been sent in. We thank you, Marg

Childhood in Ring Road and Local Characters

I was a neighbour of Paul Kidger in the 1950s and 60s in Ring Road and remember the family well – Lyn was in my class at N Lancing Primary School. I also remember the dog-walking old lady who would bleat ‘ Kiltie, Kiltie ‘, which the dog ignored.

I was part of the St James the Less Players, a church drama group, which started my career on the boards.

The Downs, The Manor, The Park, The Clump, The Chalkpit..The Woods and The Beach..were all special places in our wonderful Sussex childhood.

Our teachers were dedicated – I am sure Paul will remember Pop Stear, Miss Tait, Miss Laugham, and Mr Cox!

Vanishing Farm

Hill Barn Farm, which Paul mentions, had utterly vanished when I went for a look in 2005…odd because though it was a wreck in the Bartons' time, it had been the Lancing College Shepherds' farmhouse and was a sturdy ancient house. In a way, I was relieved – it was a place that featured in bad dreams for me, as a teen, I had seen horses in dark barns on filth there. But…a landmark gone…………everyone has gone now, what a migrant generation we were…

In a folk club in Somerset, I met a comedian who had grown up in Lancing pre-war till 1950.

Adders on the Downs and Canadian Soldiers

He remembered Lancing at War – and Canadian Soldiers building Ring Road! He also recovered from an adder bite on The Downs, which brought back memories of stepping accidentally on one in 1959. They were definitely a hazard – we were always building camps, rolling on the grass, etc, and must have been near them.

Nov 5th was hugely important, Ring Road kids built a communal bonfire, and we shared our fireworks. Early on, the Russell family, who left late 50s, made jacket potatoes for us in the ashes.

Bonfires, Fireworks, and "The Gaia Hypothesis" (

Peter Russell has become an author and speaker on Green issues and meditation ( Title The Gaia Hypothesis ).
It was a pagan event, really and kindled my love of pagan fire ceremonies. Trick or treat, we never heard of. It was a road of children then, and we played outside all the time. Beach picnics in the summer, and The Mermaid was another fixed point in our infant geography. There was an innocent small summer fairground of a roundabout, swing boats and something else – it was lovely to see my own son when he was small enjoying these in 1982, they were still going.

The Loss of the Georgian Manor House

The Park or Manor was much larger then and the focus was a superb Georgian Manor House – that came down with the Tythe Barn – in the ’60s, there were terrible losses before the Grade 1 and 2 listings came in.

My father was active in the Community Association, and I recall delivering an Xmas box to a coastguard cottage on the seafront – also the real poverty there.

Ancient Lancing: Romans, Saxons, and Market Gardens

Since I left, I have researched the area and realised there was a Roman Temple on Lancing Ring where we often played, and a Roman Villa in The Street, and a Saxon Graveyard in The Woods. The history of the old track behind Ring Road goes back to Stonehenge times, at least 6000 years.
Lancing Roman temple - Brian Drury

I also now know Lancing grew exotic fruits and flowers to sell in London and was famed for convalescence homes. The railway works destroyed the Market Gardens and were a short-lived industry, closing after a few decades, leaving rows of terrace houses where lilies and grapes had grown. Our history teachers were ignorant of all this and probably still are.

Overshadowing us all imperceptibly was the War – all our parents had been involved and were busy establishing new lives, but it loomed over us. Then we all left……..

We sold the family home in 1991 after Mum died; Dad had died in 1978. Mrs Ward, I think, must have gone but she was there in 2000. A Mr C. Morris lives still on the road, who may be Clive – part of a family who lived there in my time.

A friend was John Robinson, who I saw on the news, is a councillor in Shoreham, and I would like to contact Stephen Buchanan from primary School Days….

PART 2

The Lancing Festival and the Bran Tub

The Lancing Festival was our family name for an event that my father, Pat Moloney, organised annually on the Whitsun Bank holiday in May. This was a highlight of our year in the 1950s and 60s. It was held on The Manor in North Lancing. The Bran Tub was a huge favourite, and I recall the days before the Big Day wrapping small gifts which were then hidden in sawdust in the barrel. I always remember Festival days as sunny, the smell of cut grass still brings back memories of the green turf of The Park. There were stalls and competitions, raffles, pony rides and a tombola. In the afternoon, there were races. One year, I won the running race for girls of my age – the prizes were gift tokens to spend at Edlows, the stationers. One year, Dad went modern – the Red Arrows flew over, there were barrels of ale and a spit roast, and the venue was The Reck or Recreation ground in South Lancing. It wasn’t the same – next year it was back at The Manor.

The Red House and Snake-Catching Methodists

Friends of our family were The Wrenches – Ted was one of the bank managers in the village, and Pat was a Commissioner for Girl Guides. The Red House was their Victorian home near St James’ church, bearing on one wall the mysterious sign Ancient Lights. 40 years after they moved on, I met again Tony Wrench, the eldest son of the four : website: www.thatroundhouse.com
As a boy, Tony caught snakes on The Downs; there were Grass Snakes as well as Adders, and he kept them in an aquarium by the front door to welcome visitors. ( One year, they came back from holiday to find the aquarium empty. Despite a few nervous nights in the house, no snakes were ever found !) However, they were Methodists, and our social life revolved around St James the C of E church.

The Vicarage Cave and the "Easter Tomb

 The Fete, the annual church garden party, was held in the vicarage garden, which had an interesting cave facing the front door, that we children liked to explore… I was surprised to read years later in a Reader's Digest compendium that Lancing Parish Vicarage garden was unique in having an Easter Tomb with Stone. Odd that The Vicar, as we called him, knew nothing about it and kept bikes there!

Shadows of War: From Polish Airmen to POWs

Only occasionally did we find out the story of the war adventures of men in the village. One man, a reader of the lesson in church, had a monotonous voice that drove us mad – later we found out he had spent years in a German prisoner-of-war camp – enough to flatten anyone’s voice. I recall seeing Mr Faltineck collapsed in the road, outside a club called Sosybah my mother helped run. He was a Polish airman in the RAF in The War and had stayed on. The ambulance took him away, but he was already dead.

The Last Lord of the Manor and the Lost Generation

“Who lived in the Manor House ?” I asked my father, who was a solicitor in the village and held the deeds of the estate of the Carr Lloyds, the last family to live there. It was a shock to learn that the last Lord of the Manor committed suicide in 1919. Was that to do with the First World War? That too still cast a shadow on lives in the village. In 1975, I visited Miss Laugham, who had a Hansel and Gretel type cottage in the woods at Hoe Court by The College. She had been a witch as well in my childhood mind when, in 1955, aged 6, I was to enter her class at Lancing CP School and refused to go. Now retired, she had mellowed. Even so, it seemed odd to be drinking sherry with Miss Laugham. I looked at a photograph of a young naval officer in her lounge – and she told me he had been her fiancĂ©, killed in 1918. She had never married. There were so many older women who stayed single in my childhood; the men had been lost in World War 1. But the greatest casualty has been the loss of innocence since those wonderful days in Sussex after World War 2…………..

Marg (Rose) Moloney

Tuesday, 14 October 2008

Story 15 from Alan John Marshall


Alan John Marshall

Thanks to Alan for this marvellous account:

Market Gardening in Boundstone Lane

I was living in Sompting Road up until the mid-1960s. Myrtle Stores were at 109, just up the road from Myrtle Road. I remember so much about Boundstone Lane, and the school being built on the land which my father worked as a Market Gardener. In the War, and just after, they had an orchard there, with lots of gooseberry bushes under the apple trees; daffodils in the springtime; and I used to go finding birds' eggs along the line of elm hedge, beside the twitten - that ran along the northern edge of Dad's gardens.

Middle Boundstone Lane then was just a true "lane" with a rough surface, and big puddles in the rainy times. I was born right at the top of Upper Boundstone Lane, just below the cemetery.

The Frightening Shelters of South Lancing Primary

Also, just at the end of the War, when I must have been about 4 1/2, I attended the South Lancing Primary School. That was a very unhappy time for me. I remember the air raid shelters, they were under the northern ramp of what is now the railway bridge. Frightening places, closed by big double doors sloping up the side of the ramp.

A Bittersweet Move to North Lancing Primary

A teacher there, a woman whom I was frightened of, had us lined up for punishment, for trespassing on the grass slopes of the ramp. I remember something like having to dip our fingers in mustard water and suck on our fingers. Was this just a figment of my imagination? Or did it really happen? I cannot be sure. Anyway, the fear of that school and the screaming from me in the mornings at having to go to school made Mum keep me at home until I was 5, and then they got me into North Lancing Primary School, under Miss Daisy Humphreys. That was much better.

That is all I can come up with right now, but if anyone is interested and wishes to connect with me further, you can use my email address, anakial@hotmail.com and let me know who you are.

Alan
8th October 2008

The Grover Nursery and Myrtle Stores

Alan adds..
My parents, Peter and Cecily Marshall, were very close friends of Percy and Mildred Grover. The Grovers had their nursery at the corner of Boundstone Lane and the "top" road (Southeast corner), with several glass houses there. After retirement, Percy and Mildred moved up to near Storrington.
My dad was from a very old family of Lancing, and Mum's parents ran Myrtle Store for several years. Dad's parents had the semi-detached houses 2 doors up built in 1912, and the space between the back of those houses and Myrtle Crescent was a market garden too.

A Firework Disaster in Middle Road

We had a huge bonfire in Middle Road, each Nov 5th. One time, I was only a very little boy, my chip basket full of fireworks, was put "for safety" down by the fence, "out of the way." But someone lit a Roman candle on the post above, and my whole basket full went up at once. I was so sad and in tears for the remainder of the evening.

Alan wrote further

Sompting Road Memories and Family Tragedies

Mum died on December 23rd 2000, as a consequence of a road accident in Sompting Road. She was knocked off her bicycle. Quite an active cyclist was Mum, at 86 years old. Dad survived her by almost 2 years, and spent that time in Ibiza with my sister.

Dad was related to the Bushbys, Fullers, Lishers and Charles Colbourne,  who was a very respected butcher in Brighton (Chas. Colbourne). Colbourne's drapery store used to be at the top of Penhill Road.

From Sussex Grapes to Lancing Tomatoes

Dad's aunt Mary lived at Skirwith, the market garden which occupied the site on the corner of Crabtree Lane and Grinstead Lane. One of their greenhouses had a grapevine growing in it. I understand that prior to the late 1800s, grapes were grown extensively in Sussex because of the high sunlight intensity between the Downs and the sea.

Then, improved sea transport meant that imported wines and grapes from France made the grape industry of Sussex unviable, and the "new" crop of tomatoes became very popular.

Having grown tomatoes virtually all his life, and with a good reputation for sweet and tasty produce, Dad continued in his retirement to grow tomatoes in his little backyard garden at Cokeham Lane.
The Rowans, 113 Sompting Road

 He was born at The Rowans, 113 Sompting Road, and told me in those years there were very few other houses in Sompting Road or Boundstone Lane. Indeed, I remember when both sides of Upper Boundstone Lane were orchards. (That is the area between Crabtree Lane and the Upper Brighton Road.) The last house on the right-hand side at that time was occupied by McIntyre, one of the coal merchants. Boundstone Lane at that point was still a muddy, puddly, unsealed road surface.

The Paving of Boundstone Lane

A pretty good job of rebuilding the road was done, around 1951/2 I would say, because I left North Lancing Primary School in 1952 and it had been done whilst I was there. The foundation of the road surface was a mixture of old house bricks, flints, and rubble down to a depth of approximately. 1 1/2 feet. They used a steamroller for surfacing.

I attended Worthing High School from 1952 to 1957(Dec).

Editor note:
I emailed Alan on 16/12/2011 to establish he is available for correspondence. He has confirmed this.

He added this note to his profile:
Son of Peter John Marshall, market gardener, who was the son of Percy George Marshall.  Numerous family links:  Lisher, Fuller, Grover, Bushby, Long, Colbourne, Judd.


I now live in Tasmania.  Born 1941. Attended North Lancing Primary School, Worthing High School.

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