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Friday, 16 January 2026

Part 1: Lancing Carriage Works Firemen: Mapping the Memories of the Carriage Works


The Industrial Heart of Lancing: Mapping the Memories of the Carriage Works

The Lancing Carriage Works was more than just a factory; it was a 66-acre world that defined our village for generations. Following the wonderful 180th-anniversary display at the station, I’ve been digging into the "human side" of the Works—the faces, the families, and the stories that still echo through the Parish Hall and local history groups.

Mapping the Site

To understand the scale, we have to look at it from above. This aerial photograph (attributed to Brian Prevett) shows the sheer size of the Southern Railway Works.

  • The site spanned 66 acres, housing massive carriage and paint shops.
Courtesy Brian Prevett
  • At its peak, it employed over 1,500 people, many of whom arrived daily from Brighton on the famous "Lancing Belle" workers' train.
  • The "saw-tooth" rooflines were designed to flood the workshops with natural light for the skilled craftsmen below.

South Lancing Southern Railway Carriage Works : [Luftwaffe Target Folder] Image: IWM (LBY LUFT 114)


The Guardians: The Works Fire Brigade

Fire was a constant anxiety on a site filled with timber and flammable spirits. Thanks to Peter Matten, we have a glimpse of the men who kept the village safe.

  • The Early Days: An older photo shows the horse-drawn "Alliance" fire appliance, a reminder of the era when steam and horsepower worked side-by-side.
  • The Faces of the 1950s: In a later group shot, we find William Jack Warr (standing third from left, back row). For years, many in the village believed this was his son, John Warr, who was such a prominent Lancing character. While John is fondly remembered as a founding member of the Lancing Naval Club in Tower Road (where he helped re-erect a salvaged military Nissen Hut), it was his father, William, who carried on the family's dedicated service as a Carriage Works Fireman.
Courtesy Peter Matten

Can You Help Identify These Faces? Lancing Carriage Works Fire Brigade

I recently across this fantastic photograph of the Lancing Carriage Works Fire Brigade. These were the men responsible for protecting the massive site, which was a maze of timber, paint, and industrial machinery. We know that William Jack Warr is standing third from the left in the back row, but the other faces remain a mystery.

We are looking for your help:

  • Do you recognise a grandfather, father, or uncle in this line-up?
  • Do you have stories of the Fire Brigade’s drills or their role during the war years?
  • Was your relative one of the 1,500+ people employed at the Works during its peak?

The Lancing History Group did a magnificent job commemorating the 180th anniversary of the station last year. I would love to build on that local pride by putting names to these faces and recording the personal memories that go with them.

Please leave a comment below or get in touch if you have any information!


Observations on the Photographs

  • The Horse-Drawn Appliance: This image likely dates from the very early 20th century or late Victorian era. The firemen are wearing the classic brass-style helmets. You can see the word "ALLIANCE" on the side of the vehicle—likely referring to the insurance company.
  • The Crowds: The presence of onlookers in hats suggests this might have been a public demonstration or celebration.

From the Works to the Naval Club

Interestingly, the photos were shared by Peter Matten, who received them from John Warr himself. Beyond his service with the brigade, John was a key figure at the Lancing Naval Club. Did you know the original club building was a Nissen Hut salvaged from a Sussex military base and rebuilt on Tower Road by John and his committee in the 1950s?

Life in the Shadow of the Sheds

"For the families of Bessborough Terrace, the Carriage Works wasn't just a place of employment—it was the view from the front door. The terrace was the heart of a railway community, housing dynasties like the Warr family."

Security and safety were paramount. Thanks to Tina Russell, we know that her grandad William Jack Warr served in this elite crew; the family still treasures his original brass fireman’s helmet.


The Finishing Touch and the Secret Shop

While the rhythmic clanging of the smiths dominated the main sheds, a different kind of precision was at play in the Upholstery Shop. This was where the "luxury" of the Southern Railway was born.

Women like Angela Thorne’s mother were the guardians of this craft. Initially stitching plush interiors, their roles took a dramatic turn in the 1940s.

As the war intensified, the "Finishing Touch" was replaced by a "Secret Service." The skilled hands were repurposed for the "Hush-Hush Shop," manufacturing components for projects like the Airspeed Horsa gliders.


Stephen Hardy - Carriage works-clump in view
Courtesy Stephen Hardy

The Industrial Valley

In this remarkable photograph from the Stephen Hardy collection, we see the sheer scale of the Lancing 'canyon.' Stacks of wheel tyres dominate the foreground, but look up: the Lancing Clump stands watch on the hillside.

Stephen Hardy, - Sawtooth rooves - wheel yard

The Sawtooth Skyline

"A city within a village, where light poured through sawtooth glass onto master craftsmen. It was here that Stephen’s father and colleagues turned raw steel into the pride of the Southern Railway."

The Draughtsman’s Final View: On 16 July 1964, Alan Hardy stood at his window for the last time. These photographs were his final act of documentation.

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The Craftsman’s Rite of Passage

"One of the most enduring traditions of the Lancing Carriage Works was the 'Apprentice Chest.' When a young man started his training, his first real challenge was to build his own tool chest. It was a test of skill and a badge of honour; if your chest wasn't up to standard, you weren't up to the trade.

Stephen Hardy has shared these evocative photos of his father’s collection. You can see the heavy-duty apprenticeship chest, still sturdy decades later, alongside his wartime 'Railway Service' badge. Many of the tools inside were hand-finished or custom-made by his father to fit the specific needs of the carriage shop. It is a reminder that while the buildings were massive, the heart of the Works was found in the precision of the individual workman’s hands."




A life of service and solidarity: Steven Hardy’s father’s badges. On the left, the Southern Railway 'War Service' badge, signifying his essential role during WWII. On the right, his NUR union badge, a symbol of the camaraderie and collective spirit that defined the workforce at the Lancing Carriage Works. These were more than just pins; they were a workman's identity.



Voices from the Works

  • Open Day Magic: Bev Pettiford recalls her dad, Bill Jones, lifting her up to sound the engine horn.
  • A "Foamy" Souvenir: Trevor McInnes remembers the trimmers cutting scraps of foam for children in the 1960s.
  • The Eerie Silence: Graham Funnell describes visiting in 1965, feeling as though the workers had simply "gone to lunch" and never returned.

The Veterans who Built the Works

Long before the 1960s, the Works was staffed by men like Charles Thomas Meads. A veteran of the 1st Royal Sussex Regiment, Charles spent nearly two decades as a fireman at the Works.

Charles Thomas Meads Fireman
Courtesy Marilyn James

When Charles passed away in 1937, his funeral was a true railwayman's send-off. He lived at 47 Monks Close—just a stone's throw from where I write today.

Obituary - Charles Thomas Meads

Master Personnel List

Name Department / Role Historical Connection
Charles Thomas Meads Fire Brigade / Rolling Stock Repair Veteran of 1st Royal Sussex; lived at 47 Monks Close.
William Jack Warr Works Fire Brigade Father of John Warr; dedicated fireman at the site.
Dixy Dean Wartime Gunner / Charge Hand Defended works from air raids; mentor to apprentices.
Alfred William (Bill) Moppett Acetylene Cutter / Home Guard Specialist in "Steel Ring" repairs and wartime defence.
Bill (William) Jones Furnaceman (14 Years) Lifted daughter Bev to sound engine horns.

Correction & Family Update: Since publishing, Julie Bevan clarified that the Fireman pictured is William Jack Warr, not his son John. William was the fireman; John is remembered for running the Naval Club. My thanks for getting the family tree right!


Series Links: Lancing Village Memories

Part 1: The Guardians of the Works: Firemen & Veterans (you are here)
Part 1b: Images from the Philip Fry Collection
Part 2: The Silent Partners: Women & Youth (1941–1945)
Part 2b: The Secret of the "Hush, Hush" shop
Part 3: Mr Warr and the Lancing Railway Fire Brigade
Part 4: The Bofors Crew: From Shop Floor to Front Line
Part 4b: The Shingle Skeletons - A Prequel to the Front Line
Part 5: The Lancing Squad – Precision on the Front Line
Part 6: Bomb Alley - The day the FW-190s came to Lancing
Part 7: The Invisible Colony
Part 8: The Final Reveal – The Skeletons in the Garden
Part 9: From the 'Running Man' to the 'Rocket Dance'
Part 10: The Pegasus Bridge Hero: Denis Edwards

Author’s Note: History is often closer than we think. Let's keep the memory of the "factory in a garden" alive!









Thursday, 1 May 2014

39. George Forrest tells a story about the men at the Lancing Railway Carriage Works

 

George Forrest

Hear George's story All of George's messages in one

The Lancing Railway Carriage Works

Whilst the Lancing railway carriage works was probably the largest employer in the area, I personally did not have a lot to do with it; some of our friends and neighbours worked there, and some of my school friends did on leaving school. It was said, tongue in cheek, that it was always possible to tell where a carriage worker lived because the house was painted green and cream, i.e. the colours of the old Southern Railway.

Early Morning Work at the Paper Shop

My only real contact with some of them came early in the morning when I worked for an hour in the paper shop now occupied by Garretts on North Road just above the railway station. At that time, it was owned by a man named Briggs. Later sold to a Mr Forshaw.

Carriage Workers and Their Routine

Anyway, the carriage workers had to clock in by 07.45 or they lost 15 minutes of pay. I worked from 06.30 until 07.30, although I rarely got away before 07.45 because of the late workers. Usually, all went smoothly until about 07.30, there was ample time to make up three paper rounds for the boys delivering them. 

Morning Chaos

The late-running workers would throw their bicycles onto the pavement, run into the shop, almost throw their money onto the counter and become quite impatient if their paper and cigarettes were not immediately forthcoming. It was always the same ones; they never seemed to learn. I think this was when and where I learned to swear. The swearing was increased when it was realised that the railway level crossing gates were closed and they would have to carry their bicycles over the footbridge. The situation was not helped by Mr Briggs and me being amused by this and showing it.

The Shop and Sorting Office

The shop was, or at least the back half of it was, the main Lancing Post Office at that time, and the sorting office was in a detached building to the rear of that.